I was invited, or more like urged to be on the Wingit Call on 10/25/2016. I had someone do a transcript of the call. Here is the video I created as I did my YouTube livestream. You will probably agree with me that the audio and video quality is much better than that of the YouTube video. However, I have put the YouTube video at the bottom for those who might want to see it and comment over there. I prefer you all comment here on this page but it’s completely up to you. Here it is, I come onto the live call at the
First off, I, along with TNTBS, Nash Rambler, and Sam I Am (Dinar Douche bags and Iraq Currency Watch) were having a live call during and after the Wingit Call on 10/25/2016. I was brought on the Wing it call due to them calling me back via the Tweet you will find if you scroll down a bit.
At 10 minutes 8 seconds is when I join the call.
31:10 TNTBS Joins Wingit With Nick
43:58 Why is your website down Nick? He thought Dinar Daily was MY SITE, quite interesting.
49:41 Cupcake Reference and Garry asking where the picture of him wearing glasses with a bib was found
51:08 End of the Wingit Call, begin Guru Hunters Call
55:50 TNTBS Made money on the APPRECIATION of the Iraqi Dinar
59:18 Finding George Wages
Here is the video that I recorded on 10/25/2016 with the other guru hunters.
Here was my invitation to join the call:
Here are the FULL call notes for the Wingit Call from that day as well as the audio file. I am working on the transcript of my over 3 hour video.
Audio File –
Transcript for Wingit Call October 28, 2016
Last Updated On: October 28, 2016
By: Nick Giammarino
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If someone spoke but everything they said was obscured by another’s voice, what they said is not transcribed, except as [Caller x talks over Caller y].
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Gerry Maguire: Hello, and welcome to the Wingit call. October 25th, 2016. Yup, we’re still here. Take a knee, please. Lord, thank you for another day to give you praise, thank you for the wisdom, guidance, the discipline and guidance that you’ve shown us that we so desperately need. For everyone on the call, let them hear what you have to say, what’s being said, and your wisdom is all we need as this blessing comes down. We thank all this in the name of your son Jesus Christ, Amen. Star two to raise your hand, please, star two to raise your hand. [0:05:00] Oh, disclaimer, we’re not attorneys, CPAs, or financial advisors. Anything on this call is not, I repeat not, to be considered any form of legal advice. And for the rest of the disclaimer go to Wingitcall.com, you will see a tab that says, “Disclaimer”, read the disclaimer and you will have the rest of my disclaimer. Ah, let’s see. Again, star two to raise your hand, could be a short call today. Ah, Nick did tweet out there that he’s coming in today, I’m just waiting for him to raise his hand, you know we’ll bring him in here in a little bit, ‘cause he’s not feeling well. We’ll bring him in and get him out and go on. Um, Richard.
Richard Howard: Yes sir, I’m here.
Gerry Maguire: Your turn.
Richard Howard: Alright, thank you. Um, I wanted to come on just for about ten minutes this morning. I’m gonna talk about something that I’m, uh, we, we’re not going to talk about anymore. But, uh, um, ah, I understand that on Friday, uh, our names were taken in vain again. Uh, and that’s okay. Ah, I wanted to come on this morning to reassure everyone that, they have, in fact, made the right decision. And I want to go through it logically, uh, do two things however, because apparently, I’m getting some calls from people that maybe are listening to other calls somewhere and some information is being put out. The first thing I wanna talk about is um, I, uh, I got a, um, several calls from, indicating that, uh, if you RVed, and the bank was taking the taxes, there on the spot where you RVed, how you would handle it. Well, I don’t believe, based on what I’ve been able to find that the bank is prepared and it’s willing to take any taxes out for anything. And we believe, and other, smart people do too; believe that we’re going to go in and if you have your bank account set up properly, and you’ve got a debit card or deposit slips and all that’s been done properly, um, that uh, that you’re just going to exchange in there, and then it’s going to be up to you, at the end of the year, when you file your taxes, to deal with the deferment of that increase of value of the currency. That’s the way it handled, that’s the way it’s handled. The bank is not prepared to, it cannot legally take taxes, and I don’t think that they are. Well, someone else said, I guess someone got on a call and they’ve been questioning, uh, certain things, and um, some other, some popular talk show host said, well, he didn’t see that this trust would defer taxes unless the trust was tax-exempt. Well, the trust is not tax-exempt. It’s not tax-exempt. Because of the way that it’s prepared, and because of the uh, the IRS codes, the uh, the uh, the scot-owned trust, and the reinstatement of trust, which is the trust law, the, the way that it’s written and the laws that it complies with means that it is capital gains deferred. Not tax-exempt, but capital gains deferred. So, it will, unless the law changes today, this will be a capital gains event and it will be treated as such. If you have this trust, then you’re gonna be in great shape because the way that you treat it, the way that the law is written, the fact that it’s discretionary complex trust, it’s, that increase in value is not income to the trust, it’s not capital gains.
And that, that’s just the way it is, as Walter Cronkite, Walter Cronkite says: that’s the way it is. [0:10:00] Um, the other thing that is, uh, I guess some people are talking about, is will the law firm, will people be around after the RV to help other people and I want to assure you that, that Paul Rosen . . . has just had his . . . his son and daughter get out of law school in the last several years and they’re going to go to work for him and he’s gotta get his blood out of them before he’s gonna let them, he retires. His kids are gonna work for a while, the law firm will be around, the law firm will be, uh, will be very involved in this. Now, that doesn’t mean that you go to the law firm for everything. There’s gonna be, uh, a group of people in Dallas, and there’s gonna be a group of people here in Southern California that are, uh, and I have, uh, formed a company that’s gonna be more and more involved in the, the uh, the uh, the trust. The business trust, the charitable trust. There’s gonna be lots of people there to pick up the phone, no one’s disappearing, I’m not disappearing.
So, I just wanna make sure that everyone understood that. Then, the uh, um, I wanted, I want to do the best that I can do in just a few minutes to address the scam issue that some, some person . . . you, you gotta question when somebody says something and they don’t take the time to really vet it out, they just say, “It’s a scam,” you have to kind of question their, their uh, motives. You, I, I promise you, I can’t imagine what the motives would be if someone actually vetted the law firm and really checked into it. I’ll go through this one more time: Paul Rosen runs his law firm the way he wants to run it. And he chooses to run his trust business separate from his law firm. Now, they are litigators, and believe me, you do want litigators if you ever had a reason, okay, you won’t very much, but if you do, you want a law firm behind you that are litigators. And, it’s my understanding that it were litigators that decided they wanted to penetrate this trust. Now, Paul, the way he decided to run his, the uh, trust business, is through Masters Copyrights LLC, which is fully owned by Paul Rosen. He’s the sole principal of Masters Copyrights LLC, and my agreement, and anyone else’s agreement, is between Masters Copyrights LLC and myself. Um, actually my trust; we’re doing it the right way. So, we’ve gotta, we’ve got to figure out the scam. Um, because, there’s not many places the scam can be. Uh, so I got my trust back in 2012 for the sole purpose of the currency. That’s what I did. I paid for it, I got it, it’s done. I’ve been operating it for four years, I’ve paid my taxes, and I’ve never heard anything from the IRS. You don’t, you just report it. It’s been a zero tax return because that’s the way it is, ha. So, the first, I guess we could think . . . I got scammed in too. So, I’m just, I’m telling you that. Uh, the first time I apparently got scammed it was currency. Now, I’m not saying it’s a scam, I’m saying that’s possible. If we can conclude that that’s the case, but I really don’t believe that in my heart of hearts. And I have some information that I know it’s going to happen it’s just a matter of when, and I really believe that.
Um, next place it could be a scam is if what we have been telling you is not true. That it doesn’t defer taxes, well – sigh – after 28 000 trusts that Rosen and Masters Copyrights LLC has written over the years and the amount of tax returns that, that, that, uh, Denson and some of the other guys have filed each year, that it just seems logical that there would be complaints somewhere and Rosen to this day does not have a single issue reported to the Texas bar, and that’s a tough bar, tough bar! So, I don’t know where this character believes that there’s a scam but I assure you there’s not, you’re well protected, you’ve made the right decision, uh . . . . [0:15:00] Anything you read anywhere, go into the Masterstrust.com protection, and if you can’t find it in there, then it’s, uh, you know, you know, then it’s, you don’t need to pay attention to what you’ve been reading. Uh, and let me wrap up with this, if anyone does need, who knows when this thing is gonna fire off, there’s a lot of activity but I’ll leave it like this, if anyone is contemplating, um, uh, getting their, their, their trust through this, this deposit program, the only thing, the only urgency is the, that the assignment of the currency has to be done prior to the increase in value of the currency, the published increase in value. And if I can help anybody, just let me know. Go into Masters Trust, fill out the application and send it in. And with that, Mr. Maguire, I leave it into your capable hands.
Gerry Maguire: Thanks Richard, appreciate it.
Richard Howard: Sure.
Gerry Maguire: Well, um, I see the next call called in; we’ll get to him in just a second. Iko Ward, how’s it going today?
Iko Ward: Well, it’s going about the same as it was going the other day.
Gerry Maguire: Ah, you don’t sound good, I’ll carry you today.
Iko Ward: I, I, I just can’t believe it. I mean, you know – sigh – if people are still having trouble with the Masters trust, then don’t do it. You know? Quit wasting our time; quit wasting Richard’s time, I mean Richard’s got the patience of a saint. He’s not taking the high road here; he’s taking the skyway as far as I’m concerned. Um, this is just ridiculous now. You know? If people are in this much fear, and they have this many doubts about it, and I know it’s only a few, or the ones that get the airtime, I just, uh . . . . You know?
Gerry Maguire: Well, listen. It really is.
Iko Ward: And, and, and I’m through making excuses for people. Like, fine, a year old, let’s make excuses. You know?
Gerry Maguire: I understand.
[Iko Ward talks over Gerry Maguire]
Gerry Maguire: Just a little bit of intel, here. By the way, Art, still recovering. He, he’s just not feeling well. Uh, we’ve all read the, the stuff out there, Zimbabwe is getting ready to make announcements, China is getting ready to make announcements, um, Dizian has called today, he’s looking for the next couple of days – he’s not calling it, he’s looking for it for the next couple of days, he’s feeling rather encouraged. Which, I can live with that answer. That’s a great answer. I like that answer. That’s a great answer. With that being said, Nick, my man.
Nick: Hello.
Gerry Maguire: The floor is yours.
Nick: Well, um, I wasn’t sure which Richard that was ‘cause you didn’t give his last name.
Gerry Maguire: That’s Richard Howard, that you, you and you team so lovingly throw underneath the bus, saying that he’s not a representative of Masters Trust.
Nick: Yeah, I actually had a conversation with, um, Paul Rosen. I’m not, it wasn’t Paul Rosen, actually, it was his son Jeremy, by the way, he was pretty helpful, I mentioned . . . by the way we’re livestreaming right now on YouTube. I’ve got a little chat window open so anybody listening can throw me a question in case they had one for you guys. But, I had brought up a couple things with him, brought him up how the video says, “Matters Trust,” and mentioned, let’s see –
Gerry Maguire: You mean, “Masters Trust,” not “Matters”.
Nick: Yeah, ha, well, that, [inaudible] that it, the channel name is “Matters Trust”, I wasn’t sure why because you would think he would put it under “Masters Trust” because it would be much easier to search, but anyways I’m gonna email Jeremy, um, Rosen about that, I already told him, um, about that. But no, we had a good conversation, pretty long conversation, I took a good amount of notes, and I had brought up a few things about him, like the word “trust” didn’t even come up on the Rosen and Rosen sites. And he says, well, you know, and I said it just brings up some questions and he answered some things about that, he said okay, well, there’s Masters Trust, and then there’s my Masters Trust, and he says my Masters Trust is just another independent agent, and I’m not sure which one Richard Howard [0:20:00] is because there’s a Richard Howard, and then there’s a Richard Ronald Cayce, there’s all these different Richards so it gets a little discombobulated if you know what I mean, trying to find out who everybody is.
Gerry Maguire: Well, Richard Howard is an authorized representative of Masters Trust out of California, and then you have Marcus Plobly – that’s probably not how it’s pronounced, his last name – he’s over in your area out of Phoenix, Richard Stinson, is the CPA in Texas. Who else would you like to know?
Nick: Let me see what we’ve got here. Well, I was given the name Richard Ronald. ‘Cause I asked what Richard’s last name was – this was another Richard – and he said he’s out of Dallas, Texas. Jeremy said his name was Ronald, Richard Ronald.
Gerry Maguire: Okay.
Nick: Okay, but his name’s not Richard Ronald, it’s Richard Ronald Cayce. So I wasn’t sure why Jeremy Rosen didn’t want to disclose that, or maybe he wasn’t completely sure. I’ve just been doing some research on Richard Ronald Cayce and it’s brought up –
Gerry Maguire: My question is, is this a scam?
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: The way you guys are pushing it, I would say yes. I would say yes, talking about Zimbabwe and assets and putting them into a trust before some revaluation, that was, and I spoke to Jeremy about that, and he was kind of on the fence, he didn’t want to give me, any clear answer, ‘cause I was trying to get him to, to just flat out say, I said, “Do you believe in this, do you not?” And he wasn’t really; he was trying to avoid it. But, he said in regards to the dinar, he said if his agents – so I guess that would be Richard Howard – if agents want to state their opinion about the dinar, he says a couple agents actually purchased dinar, they believe it’s going to revalue, he says the main representation that the agents, including Richard Howard, are supposed to be making, is how the trust works. So, this is coming from Jeremy Rosen of the Rosen and Rosen firm.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: So you’re in agreement with what’s, what’s been said so far, what Richard, the way Richard Howard is presenting it is the way the trust operates.
Nick: I don’t agree completely. I don’t think he should be bringing up currency speculation into this trust, and I don’t, and Jeremy Rosen seemed to be very cautious about that as well when I spoke to him on the phone. He didn’t think that the agents, the, the agents were supposed to be representing the firm. That way . . . not even necessarily the firm but even Master Copyright. They shouldn’t be mentioning any currency revaluation. Excuse me.
Gerry Maguire: We are on the same page that this is a tax-deferment type of trust. You know, I hate to turn this a trust call and bring you in here but-
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: Yeah, I know.
Gerry Maguire: This is all going out in the open, but, other than that, Nick, ahem, how is it a scam the way that we’re representing it and presenting it?
Nick: I don’t think . . . this is imminent, this is going to happen and you have to get your trust, I mean, that’s kind of the way the dinar companies were using the gurus to pump, they were saying it’s going to happen next week. I actually spoke to Frank Bell from Sterling Currency and he said any time that Tony would mention this stuff, the same thing would happen: the phone lines would light up, and he was almost trying to make it sound like a bad thing, because he didn’t have enough callers, but isn’t that the point of your business – to get more people to call you? I said, so uh, if people think that this revaluation is about to happen, then they would probably try to put their assets in a trust. But, like I said, Jeremy Rosen – I know he can’t really speak to his father, I’d have to speak to his father independently – said he didn’t want to get into the dong, or the dinar, or anything like that, he just said the independent agents are not supposed to represent the trust in that particular sense. And I said that it was interesting that they never even mention it on their site, the word “trust” – you’ll find the word “trust” once on the Rosen and Rosen site, and it’ll say something to the effect of, “You can trust us,” I think is actually what it says.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: So, your, your buddy Nash says, and I think you agree with him, that people who have put $500 down can pretty much kiss that money goodbye, because post-RV, they’re not gonna get their product? Is that true? Is that what you’re saying?
Nick: What product?
Gerry Maguire: Masters Trust, Masters Trust.
Nick: I can only talk to a couple people, and I’m not even gonna mention names, who have said that they’ve had some issues getting a hold of, let’s see, Richard, ah, let’s see, [0:25:00] who was it? Well, maybe we shouldn’t bring up the personal issues, but they’ve been having trouble getting a hold of these people, after they’ve started the paperwork, that’s something we should talk about off the air, but yeah. I mean, I’m coming across a whole bunch of stuff, and then your buddy-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: No-
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: George Wages decided to delete all his Facebook stuff, I mean we’re looking at it right now, his live Facebook page is here . . . and I don’t know what happened here, I mean we called him with TNTBS, I think we freaked him out – he deleted all of his Facebook stuff. But I mean, not before we saved it-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: And that brings me to another question: why are you – why are you harassing people?
Nick: We’re trying to get to the bottom of this – what’s happening.
Gerry Maguire: Okay, so how is a person that has, operates the “Donate” button, why, why would you do that to him? Why are you harassing-
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: We’re trying to understand who he is and why, why did he go run and hide all of a sudden, just because we – he got ID’d? It’s very interesting, his, he deleted his whole page, his Facebook, but like I said, we archived it. I just don’t understand if-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Nick: . . . why are they hiding?
Gerry Maguire: Why do you hide behind a Google number that you have to announce yourself when they call you before you’ll answer?
Nick: You don’t have to announce . . . you can give a fake name, I’ll still answer. I didn’t have it set up that way, people can call me whoever they want.
Gerry Maguire: Interesting. Well, we’re, we’re – is the trust a scam? That’s-
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: Oh, no, no no, let’s just face it, the trust – there’s a real thing called the trust. There are trusts available, and . . . .
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: No, no, no, the Masters Trust.
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Gerry Maguire: Okay, go ahead.
Nick: Well, I’m looking at some court documents on the Masters Trust, the Masters Spend Trust, and there’s quite a number of court documents about it, and it looks like Rosen and Rosen were part of this . . . court document here. And I don’t know if you were aware of that but there’s this court document here about the Masters, uh, Spendthrift, sorry, Trust – I haven’t gone through the whole thing – but here’s the deal: yes, it’s a real trust. The scam is the way it’s being pushed, that people need to get their Zimbabwe dollars – which are completely worthless, and you guys know this – into a trust.
Gerry Maguire: Hold on, we’re not saying . . . just Zimbabwe. We’re saying currencies.
Nick: Mmhm. What do you think the plan is, that people are going to put their currency in this trust and they’re not going to be taxed, or they’re going to be tax-exempt?
Gerry Maguire: Tax deferment, how many times . . . it’s a tax deferment.
Nick: Okay. Well, Jeremy Rosen did not like that. He did not think that the agents should put it out that way. Maybe he wasn’t aware. Or maybe he wasn’t aware and he’s aware now. But let me put it this way: he did not think the agents were representing that properly, that they should not be doing that. You can promote a trust, but to promote this revaluation, that’s very speculative, that’s being investigated, as you . . . .
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: Oh, and George didn’t delete his, George didn’t delete his Facebook, he just turned it private, that’s why you can’t see it.
Nick: I know. I know.
Richard Howard: Gerry, am I live right now?
Gerry Maguire: Yeah, you are live.
Richard Howard: Okay, my involvement, when I first got involved with Masters Copyrights . . . and by the way, just so you know this, Nick, who I am, I’m Richard Howard, not hiding from anybody. Sometimes, I’m more difficult to get a hold of than other times, but there’s always plenty of ways to get to me; the phone is probably not the best way. I’ll answer emails, I’ll make phone calls. My first involvement with Masters Trust had nothing to do with currency. It had my acquisition of it . . . my acquirement of my trust was for currency – that’s my business, not anybody else’s business. And I know what the trust offers because I did my due diligence in the beginning just like everybody is doing their due diligence. So, I’ve had trusts that were set up for car collections, I’ve helped set up trusts for, um, stock options, real estate, uh, a lot of things. One day, I get a call, and I don’t know, Gerry, if I’ve ever actually talked to you before, but we knew of each other; and it was a Saturday, would you, we’ve got enough people that are, [0:30:00] uh, that are, uh, interested in trusts and they’ve got a lot of questions, would you do a call late on Saturday? I said sure, let’s go do it. And I didn’t know, quite frankly, what I was getting myself in for. I just said I was gonna be on a conference call. Boom. So, the conference call that I was on with Gerry, it just happened to be with people that people that owned currency. When I talk, I don’t judge, I don’t think you’ll find anyone that I’ve told to go out and buy any currency. I have people ask me all the time and I, I just say, I take the absolutely neutral position: I don’t know what’s going on, and I truly don’t anymore. I’ve thought I’ve known that several times. And doing, I, I, so . . . when I give people examples of this, because they are coming to me – and because, it’s not because I’m approaching anyone – I just give the information out and they can come back to this. But the way that this thing, that this trust is written, it will defer – and I would have thought you would have paid attention to what I said earlier and maybe remember that – because the way it’s written, the trust is written, it is, it is the deferment of capital gains. The way it’s written, the laws that it complies with – and I can quote the rules! Title 26, paragraph 22 of the IRS code. So I know it’s not, and I know how to read it. These are smart lawyers, this thing started back in the 50s and 60s with oil and as royalties. It’s been around and now the, the subject du jour is currency. Okay, well, I wasn’t going to get many car collections on the Wingit call, so it all just being currency.
But you won’t find anybody that I’ve pumped to either buy currency – ‘cause I don’t talk about it. I use the currency as an example of why they’re coming to us for the trust. I’ve had people that have, uh, in fact, because I come on and say, “Be careful,” not “Be careful,” that’s the wrong thing . . . beware that you may have things going on in your life that are real situations that getting your trust and not just the deposit may help you. And I’ve had clients that have done that. I sat through the seminar, with, with Alice Richard – there’s just too many Richards, that’s the problem, there’s too many Richards. So, he, and, you, you, you wouldn’t last five minutes with him in a trust call about this trust. So this trust is, is very well-written. Uh, if someone has told Jeremy Rosen – and I generally don’t talk to him, I can at any time, but I just don’t – no one . . . I’m not pumping currency, but I will absolutely use the currency as an example where someone is coming to me with, with, that owns currency, to protect their assets. And it will do that. But it will also protect other things. So, no one’s pumping anything here. I don’t, I don’t know the issue. I can’t figure out the issue because you won’t answer Gerry’s question about whether this trust is a scam, because people have gotten, people met me, there’s people that met me . . . apparently, someone told me there’s a picture of me on the internet of me – God, I hope it’s not, ‘cause it’s scary, if I look that bad, I’m a whole lot prettier than that picture apparently.
Uh, and people have met me . . . you know, if I wanna do how I wanna I do things, if someone questions that, why would I give them my Gmail account? Well, there’s a reason for that – it’s a business reason. And people were sending me things; I’m on my computer all the time and I wanna see things that come in. That’s business, not anybody else’s. People can get a hold of me, but if they’re trying to get a hold of me on the phone all the time, I may get back to them that day, I may get back to them later, I don’t know.
Nick: Okay, Richard, you’re the one that put up that video with Paul Rosen talking about the Masters Trust?
[Richard Howard talking over Nick]
Richard Howard: Did I put it up? No, no, no, someone else at the law firm put that up.
Nick: Well, Jeremy Rosen said they don’t have a YouTube channel. He doesn’t, he doesn’t know who is in charge of the marketing. He’s not very computer-savvy, that’s the way he talked to me about it. The video has got your name, it’s got your phone number, got your email address, who put it up?
Richard Howard: And where do you think – where do you say it is? [0:35:00] Ah, because I’m curious, I’m asking that in good faith, I wanna-
[Nick talks over Richard Howard]
Richard Howard: . . . of Masterstrust.com, Richard? The Masters Trust or the one put up by the law firm? Which one are you talking about? Because one’s not at the right place based on YouTube. Because I want to know that, I legitimately want to know that. Because yes, I did pay, I paid to have that put up, and if it’s the wrong place, I wanna know about it.
Nick: So Masters Trust is your site? Masterstrust.com
Richard Howard: Masters Trust is not my site; it’s the law firm’s site.
Nick: Okay, so it is the law firm’s site.
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
Richard Howard: Masters Trust, Masters Copyright, the law firm, the, the, that website is the, is owned by Jeremy Rosen either through the law firm or Masters Copyrights LLC. That’s, that’s just it. They own it; I don’t own it.
Nick: I have a conversation with Jeremy Rosen. One of the last things I said to him was if I want to get the trust from either you or your father or your law firm rather than going to an individual, meeting with one of the agents, like your father, is he available? Jeremy said no, it would be through the site, if you want to talk to somebody, it would be Richard Ronald. He said the name was Richard, Richard Ronald; the name is actually Richard Ronald Cayce. So, are you familiar with Richard Ronald Cayce?
Richard Howard: Yes, well, I’m not, uh, I’m, yes, we are.
Nick: Okay. Okay, because he was mentioned in some documents, some court documents related to the Masters Trust . . . .
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
Richard Howard: Okay, do you wanna know the story?
[Nick talks over Richard Howard]
Nick: No, no – that’s not, that’s not relevant. That’s not relevant . . . .
Richard Howard: Oh, it is! It is relevant. We won’t get into it if you don’t want to, but it is absolutely relevant. So, but . . .
Nick: Regarding the video that’s improperly labelled, it’s on Masterstrust.com and it says “Trust Video” and it’s got a YouTube embed, but when you click it, it’ll take you to the YouTube channel directly and it’s Paul Rosen speaking for about two minutes. But the channel name is Matters Trust and not Masters. So if I need to contact Jeremy, I’ll just – he already gave me his personal email – I’ll contact Jeremy Rosen about that.
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
Richard Howard: It is! I did, I did that, but now I’m concerned because it’s got the wrong heading and I’m gonna get to the bottom of that. I did that; I had permission to do that. I’m not – I certainly did it. But if it’s the wrong place, yeah, but it’s not suspicious, it’s just in the wrong place for God’s sake.
Nick: Okay, well, Jeremy Rosen, yeah, he said he wasn’t, he didn’t know about that. I said the video said, “Matters Trust,” and he didn’t understand.
Richard Howard: Well, trust me, I didn’t-
[Nick talks over Richard Howard]
Richard Howard: It’s probably just a typo error, Nick; you’re making a mountain out of a molehill. So in the end, the reason you’re doing this is you’re holding everybody accountable for what you think is a wrong. People are being wronged in the community about this being a scam.
[Nick talks over Richard Howard]
Richard Howard: Well, hold on here, give me just a second. Let me get over here, ‘cause I’m trying to find out where the scam is, I’d like Nick to be able to say that.
Nick: Well, I’ve got somebody; let me see if I can get him on the line real quick . . . alright. Am I even still connected?
Richard Howard: Yeah, you’re here.
Nick: Okay, I just wanted to make sure. Let me see if I can get a hold of this guy. Yeah, hold on just a sec.
Richard Howard: Yeah, ‘cause over on, on . . . .
TNTBS: Yeah?
Richard Howard: Oh, here we go.
Nick: Hey, is that who I think it is?
TNTBS: Hahaha, it’s TNTBS! What’s up, everybody?
Richard Howard: Okay, hold on, Nick, Nick?
Nick: Yes, sir?
Richard Howard: We don’t have a problem, as long as he acts professional.
Nick: Okay, TNTBS-
TNTBS: I will act professional, I will act professional.
Richard Howard: Okay, ‘cause we’re not gonna have any cussing, or any swearing.
TNTBS: Yup, no cussing from me, none at all.
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
TNTBS: So how you guys doing?
Richard Howard: Good, so, over here in the [zara?] you’ve got Gerry Gumpy Maguire Masters Trust [0:40:00] scam alert from Richard Howard. Are you sure it’s the correct Richard Howard that you got?
Nick: In the zara? What are you talking about, “in the zara”? I don’t follow “in the zara”.
Richard Howard: Uh, this page exposes the scam, provides a link to help you do your own research. I’m sure that you sent it to, uh, [Nazara?] over there . . . .
(Picture above reported to be Richard T Howard)
Nick: I don’t, who? Nazara who? Is that that New Age stuff? I’m a Christian. I don’t follow that going to the planet Neptune stuff. Maybe TNTBS knows about that, I don’t know anything about that nonsense.
TNTBS: That’s a little far-fetched for me, I don’t get into that.
Nick: Yeah, there’s a bunch of people, not just TNTBS and myself, there’s a bunch us, so, I don’t know . . .
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
Richard Howard: So, you don’t know what, you’ve made many allegations that once the money is paid you’ll never see your product and we won’t be here post-RV, all kinds of stuff. What’s going on with that, and why would you do something like that without doing a lot of investigation first? Did you actually – have you actually been to the Masters Trust website?
[TNTBS talks over Nick]
TNTBS: Oh, yeah, I’ve done tons of investigation. I’ve, I’ve uh, oh, you remember old Winston, TNTDC? I found him; I’m very good at what I do. Fact-found investigation.
Richard Howard: So the question stands: after reading the Masters Trust website, and the trust that’s listed in there with all of the IRS codes.
Nick: I see – I see what you’re trying to do. You’re trying to twist everything. You’re trying to twist everything.
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
Richard Howard: No –
Nick: Yeah, you are.
Richard Howard: How am I trying to twist it? I’m trying to understand why, why, I’m trying to understand how exactly are people being scammed? Because I don’t understand it.
[Nick talks over Richard Howard]
Nick: Okay, you don’t understand.
Richard Howard: No.
[Richard Howard talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: We’re, we’re gonna take this in short spurts everybody, so Richard and I will be quiet.
TNTBS: Have you not seen the FBI report? My Twitter page. Right there, it tells you, from the Federal Bureau of Investigations, exactly what to do when people have talked you into buying dinar, just like Tony Renfrew, same way, same thing, and Winston, the minute I exposed him, I called his wife. Winston took off running. He dumped Tony and left. Shortly after that, there’s gonna be a sting, and Stirling is next. They’re coming. And, I’m telling you, it’s so easy to prove you wrong, just by federal documents can prove you wrong.
[Multiple people talk over TNTBS]
TNTBS: . . . you’ve seen that, I heard you seen that a hundred times!
Gerry Maguire: Richard –
[Nick talks over TNTBS]
Nick: Gotta back up your allegations if you get a visit from the FBI, that’s all I’m saying.
Gerry Maguire: Okay, let me ask, let me ask a question. Just a quick question to clarify. How is this pumping dinar?
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: You guys keep twisting our words, we’re not saying dinar –
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: No! This guy said that there’s FBI, because we’re supplying this to people who have it
[TNTBS talks over Gerry Maguire]
TNTBS: What, what in the beginning was your whole grounds work? In the very beginning, in the very beginning when you first started, what was your whole grounds work? Say it: Iraq dinar. Now you won’t say it, because the feds are listening.
[Gerry Maguire talks over TNTBS]
Gerry Maguire: Back in the beginning of what?
TNTBS: What do you mean, “Back in the beginning of what?”? Every person was saying it, from WSOMN to Tony, all you people was looking into Intel Guru, look at your site for crying out loud. Every-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: Hold on, Nick, he needs to breathe. Okay? I just muted you, I’ll unmute you, you just need to stop and breathe for a second.
Nick: Okay.
Gerry Maguire: Okay, so let me say this: we have always talked about the revalue of the dinar, even Ray talks about it, and I even asked Nick, do you own currency? And he said, “Yes I do.” So he’s also about the revaluation of the Iraqi dinar. But the question goes back to: how is this trust a scam and how are we pumping? We’re not pumping any currency, we’re talking about it, but we’re not –
TNTBS: In detail, what does it cover? Tell me what it covers. [0:45:00] In detail, what does it cover?
Gerry Maguire: The trust?
TNTBS: Yeah, what are you protecting? Which currency are you telling them it will cover?
[Gerry Maguire talks over TNTBS]
Gerry Maguire: Nick –
Nick: ‘Cause here’s the thing, TNTBS, if they don’t have currency, and they don’t have assets, why are they getting a trust?
TNTBS: Exactly, and –
Richard Howard: Okay, so hold on, hold on, one of the many functions of the this trust is asset protections from foreign currency if you have some, your assets, no matter what it is-
[TNTBS talks over Richard Howard]
TNTBS: Which one? The dinar, correct?
Richard Howard: But we’re onto the wrong subject, here; just hang on a second. We’re on the wrong subject. We’re on the wrong subject here. I almost wish that I had been asked to be on a real estate call with real estate investors, rather than currency. I wish that I had been on a “How to use a trust in business”, a conference call there. ‘Cause, I had people that use this trust for asset protection, for tax deferral, it’s the same, it’s the same, uh, people do buy the trust for asset protection and tax, the tax advantage is the good trust affords. So, uh, people have talked to me, I’ve done seminars on real estate, I’ve done them on collectibles, seminars, rather, I’ve done many different ones. This one just happens to be foreign currency so it doesn’t really make any sense to make the example of what the trust can do about real estate on a call that was started because people had a common, uh, a, uh, a common, uh, uh, commonality of the people who were on the call. This thing could be about real estate and I’d have the same conversation about real estate; buy real estate. But I have never said that, I’ve never said that about a currency. There is no one that will tell you that I’ve said that about a currency.
Nick: Deflect, deflect, that’s the name of the game, “deflect”.
Richard Howard: No! That’s, I’m trying to tell you it doesn’t matter what the asset is, it does the same thing.
[Nick talks over Richard Howard]
Gerry Maguire: This trust covers . . .
[Multiple people talking over each other]
Gerry Maguire: That’s right, from your banking account to your Zimbabwe currency-
TNTBS: Oh, okay, bank accounts now. Are people giving you personal information? That’s what I – do you understand the legalization of where I’m going?
Richard Howard: No, quite frankly.
TNTBS: I’m good at what I do, so is Nick. And trust me, this will not last long.
Nick: No.
Richard Howard: Hold on. Once again, you’re taking and twisting what I said, and this is just a “he said, she said”. When I say bank accounts, if you’ve opened up your trust with a bank, that’s a bank account. Alright? So . . . sometimes talking to idiots . . . .
[TNTBS talks over Richard Howard]
Richard Howard: We’re not gonna make any headway, Gerry, we’re not gonna make it. And I’ve got a lot better things to do than this. And I’m sorry it got to this.
Gerry Maguire: Alright, thanks Richard. Now, now Nick, you’re unmuted. We might as well just mute out TNT, ‘cause he’s just not bringing anything into this-
Nick: No, no sir, I can tell you he’s been looking into this just as much as I have, and I can, I can bring anybody on, because he’s been researching [inaudible] DC and I can’t believe so many guys fell for that. What’s DC saying? It’s Winston Feister, he exposed that, he talked to his wife and then his wife got on the phone with him and she, and Winston’s like, “who is that? Is that TNTBS?” and after that Winston disappeared, and he’ll tell you all about that, because he does investigation just as much as I do. And we’re investigating this thing right now where you guys are using this trust as an excuse to get people to get, excuse me.
TNTBS: Basically what they’ve done is they’ve found a loophole. They’ve found a loophole.
Nick: Yeah.
TNTBS: And the loophole is – we’re exposing the loophole. And not understanding how much information, [0:50:00] everybody’s name that’s on that list, that we have.
Gerry Maguire: Okay, Nick? Nick? Nick.
Nick: I’m looking at the court documents.
Gerry Maguire: When you have your meeting with the FBI, I’ll be more than happy to have you give me a phone call. You’ve got my phone number, you’ve got my email. I’m pretty sure when we get to the end of this, I’m gonna be on the right side of this. So-
Nick: They’d give you a lie detector and you would pass it. Because you actually believe this stuff, that’s the problem, whereas other people who are trying to defend this speculative investment.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: You’re on, you’re unmuted.
Nick: I know I’m unmuted. People who are buying these trusts are buying it with the knowledge that they’re going to be getting a huge increase in the revaluation and that’s not the way Rosen and Rosen wants this to be portrayed. And I spoke to Jeremy on the phone, and I’ll be happy to do that again, or maybe you guys can.
TNTBS: And I’ll be calling him as well. We’re gonna put a stop to this.
Nick: They do not want Richard T. Howard to be, they do not want Wingit to be telling people to get trusts because there’s gonna be a revaluation and they need to able to structure assets, or they need to have tax-deferred assets.
TNTBS: The same one that took down Stirling, we’ll just be handing this information to Stirling, or the one that took Stirling.
Nick: Yeah, I’m meeting him next week, and trust me; they want to know about this Zimbabwe revaluation. That is what they are interested in. They’re, they’re not finished with the dinar, but they wanna know about Zimbabwe. I wish I could record it, I wish I could record it.
TNTBS: I’m sorry to your followers who will hate us for this, but we’re doing this for their own good.
Nick: I’m probably losing followers right now as I’m doing this.
TNTBS: No, not you, Wingit.
Nick: Oh, yeah, they will.
TNTBS: They’ll get mad at us, and it doesn’t matter, we’re doing it for the right reasons. We’re doing it for the right reasons.
Nick: Yeah.
Gerry Maguire: So, why is your website down? Nick? Nick?
Nick: Hello? Yeah?
Gerry Maguire: Why is your website down?
Nick: What website?
Gerry Maguire: The Dinar Daily.
Nick: No, that’s not – see, there he goes, I told you TJ, they think I own that site!
TNTBS: That’s not his website!
Nick: I don’t own that site! Oh my gosh, I don’t own that site! Forumotion is down, Okioilman2 is down, Forumotion is the hosting provider for all of those dinar forums. They are down right now. It has nothing to do –
TNTBS: Do you wanna know why? I can tell you why. It’s here on Twitter, it’s posted right here on Twitter. She said, “Hi everyone.” She – get it? It’s not Nick. “The forum is down . . . “
[Gerry Maguire talks over TNTBS]
Gerry Maguire: Anyway, Nick –
[TNTBS talks over Gerry Maguire]
Nick: I do not own Dinar Daily.
TNTBS: It’s posted!
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: Nick, after you have had your chat with the FBI please email me, love to hear about it, you know where I’m at; you know where Jeremy Rosen is.
Nick: Mmhm.
Gerry Maguire: I hate to tell you this, but I think you’re on the losing end of this, buddy.
Nick: The Rosens are fine, the Rosens are fine. They’re, the Rosens are doing a good job, it’s the independent agents that are, who are probably going to be in trouble, if they don’t stop what they’re doing they’re going to be in trouble, because when they get the call asking if they’ve been doing this because of a currency investment, then that is where the scam is. You can’t be pushing – trust packages are perfectly legal, the one Rosen and Rosen has is a perfect example of a good trust. However, when it’s promoted for these reasons of structuring assets, assets for tax deferment protection, that’s when there’s a problem.
TNTBS: Nick, Nick, can I ask you why there’s a $500 deposit and a $4500 balance payout?
Nick: Yeah.
TNTBS: I mean, if that’s what they’re asking.
Nick: I’m getting questions right, I’m getting questions right now on my feed, this is on YouTube . . . .
TNTBS: $500 deposit . . . I mean, can you imagine? This is exactly what almost what the generals was doing before they went down. It’s the same thing, they just found a loophole. They’re asking $500 deposit, with the RV, they pay the balance of $4500. I mean, can you see what I’m saying – it’s insane!
Nick: Richard Ronald Cayce, I don’t know why you didn’t tell me, why did you tell me the name was Richard Ronald, it’s Richard Ronald Cayce. We should investigate that.
Gerry Maguire: Okay, I got kicked off my own call, Auburn, you’re unmuted, go ahead.
Caller 1: Okay, hello Nick.
Nick: Hello.
Caller 1: Okay, I just, we gotta settle down here, because there is no peace here. Okay, just listen for a second. First of all, [0:55:00] you are on the Wingit call. We are not talking about Tony and Winston or anybody else. What Gerry’s trying to tell you is what he stands for. Now, any trust that you have done, you have to pay for. Have you priced trusts? That’s the first question. The second question is: did this guy push his trust on anybody? No, he didn’t. It’s just another way for us to protect ourselves that is being offered. It has never been pushed. The Masters Trust is not a scam. So now let’s look at this whole thing –
[Nick talks over Caller 1]
Nick: Masters Trust isn’t a scam; the way it’s being promoted is where the line has to be drawn. Do you agree?
TNTBS: Yeah.
Caller 1: That’s pulling one thing into another. But the, but the-
Nick: I will say this again, the Masters Trust is not a scam.
Caller 1: Hi Nick, just let me finish this first bit just for a sec.
[Nick talks over Caller 1]
Nick: Okay. Kool-Aid.
[Caller 1 talks over Nick]
Caller 1: . . . researching-
[TNTBS talks over Caller 1]
TNTBS: Haha, Kool-Aid.
Caller 1: Can you mute him? He’s-
[Nick talks over Caller 1]
Nick: I’m sorry, I’m laughing, I’m sick but it’s making me feel better.
Caller 1: I bet it is, but this just shows who you are.
TNTBS: My name’s not “him,” it’s TNTBS!
[Caller 1 talks over Gerry Maguire]
Gerry Maguire: I just muted him.
Caller 1: This is about a global currency event. This is global. And I just feel like you guys need to go out there and do your research more before you come onto Gerry’s show half-cocked. Now, you can come on here and you can talk things out by putting your big boy pants on and being able to hear what the other side is saying. Or, you can just act like an idiot and your behaviour will speak for itself. Now, please understand you’re dealing with Gerry here. You’re not dealing with Dizzy, or Nancy, or Open Mike, or Tony, we’re not dealing with those people, we’re dealing with the truth and getting to the bottom of this as well.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 1]
Gerry Maguire: Okay, I’m going to unmute him and we’re going to take some callers. It’s been a, a pretty good day today. So, so Nick, um, where did you find that lovely picture-
[Nick talks over Gerry Maguire]
Gerry Maguire: Hold on, where did you find that wonderful picture for Gary Maguire?
Nick: Did I find it? I think Nash found it, actually.
Gerry Maguire: Oh, cool!
Nick: I don’t know which one you’re talking about.
TNTBS: Of Gary or Gerry? Which one are you talking about?
Nick: Yeah. Nash is the artist. He’s the one that drew the cupcake on my head, ‘cause you called me cupcake.
[TNTBS talks over Nick]
Gerry Maguire: Where did you find the one of Gary or Gerry Maguire, with the glasses eating the barbecue and the bib on there?
Nick: Nash, where did you find, where did you find that? Everyone can see this; we’re on YouTube right now. Nash, where did you find the pictures? ‘Cause I’m pretty sure he found it.
TNTBS: I’m pretty sure-
[Nick talks over TNTBS]
Nick: I’ve been accused of owning Dinar Daily over and over again, that’s the funniest thing. Anyway, he probably found it on Facebook, I’m pretty sure he found it on a Facebook page.
Gerry Maguire: Cool.
Nick. Most likely.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Nick]
Nick: I didn’t think you’d use it as your LinkedIn page. But no, my problem is that there’s so many people producing so much information that you’re not sure who’s producing what. But back to what she was saying, she was saying for us to do our research; she didn’t really clarify what she means to do our research, because we have been doing our research-
[TNTBS talks over Nick]
TNTBS: He said Google. Nash says Google.
Nick: Oh, okay. Ha.
Gerry Maguire: Well, anyway, after you’ve had your chat; because I’m gonna go on to some of my callers, ‘cause I’ve taken up enough of your time.
Nick: Oh, yeah, sorry guys, that we took so much of the call up. Oops, haha. Alright.
Gerry Maguire: So when you hear back from the FBI, you have my email address: thewingitcall@gmail.com. I’ll be glad to share with you.
TNTBS: Yeah, I bet you will.
Gerry Maguire: Alright. Have a good day. Well, you know, sometimes it’s theatrics, what can I say. Northbend, come on down.
Caller 2: Oh my goodness, wow. Haha. I highly respect the way that you handled that call. Thank you very much for teaching, assured my Bible study last week that you had given me a huge lesson when that guy initially called in and I just thank you, thank you. My question is completely different. Um, about two weeks ago my computer was hacked, my email was hacked. [1:00:00] And it was my email address that I used for general 64 and I don’t know if I can get that email back up and running again. If one believes then, that we will be contacted via email, um, then I’m up a creek in a lead boat. Um, ah, would they have um, turned those numbers into Wells Fargo or-
Gerry Maguire: Yeah, they’ve already been turned in and to give you a, an answer to your predicament: I don’t know. If that’s the only way they’ve got to contact you, you might be . . . .
Caller 2: Up a creek.
Gerry Maguire: Up a river.
Caller 2: Aha, my. Well, thank you very much.
Gerry Maguire: Alright, thank you ma’am.
Caller 2: Uh huh.
Gerry Maguire: Did Clarksville wanna come in and say something?
Caller 3: Did you say Clarksville?
Gerry Maguire: Yup.
Caller 3: Using the name of my town, holy mackerel, haha. Yeah, I can uh, say something. I’d like to say something to say something to those fellas that were just on but I won’t. I’ll refrain. Um, I’ve been saying this trust in one form or another; I’ve talked to the accountant. The other Richard they were talking about, he’s a very sharp man. As he’s ah, been doing this, uh, been doing tax returns on these trusts and knows it inside and out for 15 years just on the spendthrift part and he says these are the best kind there is. And I realize those guys are not saying it’s a bad trust, but for them to nitpick and be penny-anteing what you’re doing – especially that one guy sounds like he’s drunk I think, I don’t know who he is, don’t know who Nick is, really. But like you say, they’re making mountains out of molehills and the FBI ain’t gonna do nothing about nothing, nothing to worry about there. So, more important thing is, when are we gonna see this? There’s one tip out there called “hourglass”, anybody read that?
Gerry Maguire: Yeah, it’s quite lengthy; could you just give a short synopsis of what it is?
Caller 3: Yeah, it’s not that lengthy; um, I read, I read fast. It just says . . . I’ll just skip the parts that don’t really mean too much. Um, the IMF announced via an internal memo last night to all central banks and governments that the GCR RV had begun as of October 24th, that’s yesterday. Monday night, Wells Fargo Corp sent out an internal memo stating that the GCR RV would officially commence and to be prepared, the staff of Trinity Exchange Center and call centers and security forces have been ready 24/7, seven days a week. And since the beginning of October, they’ve been chomping at the bit, hoping to begin the RV so they can get back to their regular lives, just like we are. So, and, it says have you noticed about the Wikileaks and the Hillary scandals and all that kind of stuff, of course we have. Earlier this week, both Iran and Iraq both RIed and RVed their currencies, with the Iraqi Gazette publishing an in-country rate of $7 USN for each one of them. That only took 12 years, it says. And now Zimbabwe announced it will be issuing new bonds/currency on Monday October 31, even running an education program to ease in-country fares for such a bold new monetary decision when the population still believes the nation is dead broke, which we know that’s not the case. Iran is giving as of noon Tuesday on the zim was way too high. No one believes 1 251, and no one’s going to get that, I don’t think. That would be so much money that it could pay the worlds’ debts two or three times, I’m sure. But hey, if it’s such a rate, it would be such a humanitarian project that it would take trillions, quadrillions of dollars, it would last for years, supply, uh, hundreds of thousands of people, that would be the only person that would get that kind of rate. Hey, they give you a hundred bucks, they give you 11 bucks, they give you a dollar – be happy and take it. That’s the reality of that all. But, uh, um, anyway, there’s looking for this thing, I understand some time between tonight and tomorrow. We heard it was gonna go down last night, but it didn’t. We know the bad guys been trying to stop it. Washburn said in his report they’re after him, they’ve issued hits on him, I believe, plus I think he said they’re, they’re wanting to get us if we send money from these currency exchanges so I’m hoping they’re rounding them all up and putting them in jail, or whatever. Um, because they’ve been the ones stopping [1:05:00] this for so many times, but I do believe we’re in a week and if it doesn’t happen tonight or tomorrow, by the end of the month, probably, surely, they’ll be here. I know we hear that every night, but for those who keep the faith, who still believe it will happen, it will happen! So that’s about it, we’re hearing that it’s going to go down tonight, so let’s hope that’s the case, and you won’t have a need for a call on Friday. That would be nice, wouldn’t it?
Gerry Maguire: Yeah! Wingman, can you hang around a little longer?
Iko Ward: Oh, I, I wouldn’t miss this for the world.
Gerry Maguire: Well, sit back, prop your feet up, let me continue on here.
Caller 3: Shine your shoes while you’re at it.
[Iko Ward talks over Caller 3]
Iko Ward: Art, Art, I’m hearing very similar things from totally different sources.
Caller 3: Yeah, yeah I think they’re all pretty much in tune now. We hear everything every night. Meetings, meetings, they’re gonna happen every night and they don’t for whatever reason. There’s just so many stories out there, so many people are hurting so bad, it just needs to happen so we can help humanity with all the money, give it away, help everybody you can, that’s the way I look at it. With that, I’ll bow out.
Gerry Maguire: Oh, and, I want to, I’ll be doing a phone call later, but I wanna give a shout out to the gentlemen who gave me some BBQ sauce. Oh my God, yes sir that is some tasty stuff. The wife likes the regular, I like the habanero. Yes, it is tasty. We will be ordering some of that, I’ll even put that on my website so people can order. I’m gonna give you a coupon; it is sweet, tangy barbecue sauce. It doesn’t pour like water, it pours more like molasses. It is good. Yes ma’am, come on down.
Caller 4: Can, can you hear me?
Gerry Maguire: Yes ma’am, how are you today?
Caller 4: Well, I would be better if Nick hadn’t been on earlier. Ha.
Gerry Maguire: Oh, you know, you know what, let me say something. Everyone, I apologize for bringing him in, but he wanted his time in the sun. There’s . . . you’re not gonna change somebody that has their opinions. I’m upfront; you can read about it . . . . Even if he goes to the FBI, bless his heart, I won’t have him in again. Forgive me, I will not have him in again, unless it’s to make an apology, like I requested the last time he called in. That, if he was wrong, to get the Tabasco ready for the big dose of crow. So, forgive me, that won’t happen again.
Caller 4: Well, ha, I admire you for allowing him to come on. However, I’ve heard all this stuff that he’s saying before. When DC and Tony were talking and even some other people knew they were giving some information, misinformation, so we kind of, eh, brushed it off. As far as your side, you and Richard, I never felt that he was pushing someone to go out and buy something, and you’ve been very fair, you’re very upfront about everything that you do, so, um; I don’t know what the guy was complaining about. Because he said he owns currency, I mean, I thought I heard him say that on the other call.
Gerry Maguire: He did.
Caller 4: Yeah, so I don’t know what the big deal is. Um, hey, if I want to hear negative stuff, all I have to do is go on the web, talk to anybody I know, my family, they’ll give you a lot of negative stuff, aha.
Gerry Maguire: Well.
Caller 4: Ha, I just want to say one more thing about the Masters Trust. Someone mentioned what another person on the web was talking about that teaches classes on, um, on the trust. I’ve gone to those; I’ve gone to other trusts. I know exactly what I want. I called many, many attorneys [1:10:00] around this area. Nobody would have the product. I called the Masters Trust. It was like I found the missing puzzle piece that fits. Nobody has asked me to go out and buy currency, and it doesn’t just have to do with just currency, it can be any assets you have. So, I just think the guy has blinders on, and he just hears what he wants to hear. But I appreciate your letting me talk, thank you.
Gerry Maguire: You’re welcome, ma’am.
Iko Ward: Yeah, Gerry, he’s psycho. I just wanna talk for a second about what she just said. If any of the Rosens have any doubts, uh, I’d be happy to have a phone call with them, and uh, you know, tell them who I am, what my business background is, and what’s my impression of what’s going on. I have a Masters Trust because what she just said: it’s the perfect trust for what we’re involved with. It covers all the bases, you know, haha. And . . . I owned the currency; I owned it for years before I chose a trust. [Inaudible] Been looking at trusts for years now, so . . . .
Gerry Maguire: How many, how many times did you tell me “no” after I told you about it? Uh, uh, no, uh, no, no, no . . . .
Iko Ward: Exactly, I vetted it. Which is what any smart businessperson is going to do. And I, I invite anyone who has any problems with this: get off this call. We really don’t need you to be wasting our time. We really don’t.
Gerry Maguire: Alright, okay, so, um, from now on, let’s, I know I’ve got about 20 people with their hands raised, I’m gonna try to get to as many of them as possible, raise them, so if you will just indulge me and . . . ask your question, we’ll try to get as many people as possible. Lynn, on the web, come on down.
Caller 5: Good afternoon, Gerry. Alright, so, how, how are you?
Gerry Maguire: Go ahead.
Caller 5: I, I’m glad you said you’re not allowing him on there again because I really don’t call in to listen to Nick’s garbage, and he really takes over the call. I call in to listen to you, and you’re about things, you’re about dinar – and I don’t even have dinar, but – other currencies, and just the intel, so I was glad to hear you say that you’re not bringing him on the call again because he really wasted a lot of time.
Gerry Maguire: And I apologize, but there was a reason behind it, so forgive me.
Caller 5: It was worse than fingernails going down the chalkboard, seriously. I just had to turn it off and walk away in the yard and come back
Gerry Maguire: Hahaha.
Caller 5: . . . for God’s sake . . .
Gerry Maguire: So what’s your question?
Caller 5: So you have left out barbecue sauce from Memphis in Tennessee and we have the world champion barbecue contest every year, so have you had sauce from Memphis?
Gerry Maguire: Well, yeah, it’s got the best cooks from Texas, what do you expect?
Caller 5: Oh, whatever.
Gerry Maguire: Hahaha.
Caller 5: Um, haha, I was gonna say ‘cause, I’m wondering if the sauce you talked about sounds like Memphis barbecue sauce – it is not runny, I cannot eat the South Carolina stuff, it’s like water. But our barbecue sauce is thick and tangy. I was wondering if you’d had any here. If not, I’d be happy to send you some.
Gerry Maguire: Oh, yes, you know what? Send me an email and you can send me some stuff ‘cause the other fellow’s from Colorado said he’s been cooking for 25 years. . . .
[Caller 5 talks over Gerry Maguire]
Caller 5: I wonder if he’s come to the barbecue ‘cause, you know, it’s international, it has like, over 300 teams and they cook for six or seven days, it’s a lot of fun.
Gerry Maguire: Yeah! Alright, ma’am send me an email, and uh . . . .
Caller 5: I’ll put “barbecue” in the subject so you know.
Gerry Maguire: Okay.
Caller 5: Okay, thanks, have a good day.
Gerry Maguire: Bye.
Caller 5: Bye.
Gerry Maguire: It’s my oopsa-doopsa buddy . . . I’m probably saying it wrong . . . how do you say that?
Caller 6: Chutzpah, aha. Well, I just wanted to say I have a lot of respect for you. I was gonna say something but I forgot. [1:15:00] I, the thing about the barbecue sauce, man – can’t you guys eat anything but barbecue? Isn’t there anything else in life?
Gerry Maguire: No.
Caller 6: There’s so many flavors – no? No? You guys just haven’t lived. Stuffed meatballs, with vegetables and cheese, and you can put barbecue sauce on; you know it’s like making a meatloaf, basically, depending on how you want to cook it with the sauce. But getting back, getting back to this Nick thing, listen, if he’s a true child of God, you’ll know it by his fruit. Let him prove it, he’ll prove it with his love, you know? We’ll see if he’s got any love in his heart for another fellow Christian. And the other thing, just because a man isn’t [inaudible], Gerry, assuming he has any, okay, uh, just throw that at you. I love you, take care of yourself, don’t worry about nothing, the Lord’s with you, you’re not acting . . . anything wrong, you didn’t do anything wrong!
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 6]
Caller 6: Good old [inaudible], hiding again, [inaudible]’s hiding again, I think we gotta get him outta that bunker, man, we gotta get him something you know, different to hide in. If I’d entered that conversation, half the people on the call would have had to hung up ‘cause their ears would be melting. Probably right, probably right.
Gerry Maguire: Alright, thank you, sir. Goodnight.
Caller 6: Goodnight.
Gerry Maguire: Raleigh, North Carolina.
Caller 7: Hey, guys.
Gerry Maguire: Redneck radio.
Caller 7: Can you hear me alright?
Gerry Maguire: Yes sir, go ahead.
Caller 7: Hey, um, I gotta, uh, simple question: what is a trust? It’s a tool. What is an LLC? It’s a tool. You use tools to protect yourself. Used correctly, they protect yourself well. So you do your research on it. If you don’t like the trust – let’s say you put the $500 down and you do it and this comes out, and you don’t like what you’ve found out later, burn the papers and exchange into your own name. It’s your choice. Um, you know, I wanna hand it to you, and I also gotta give kudos to Nick – not his buddy, Nick. You guys, Friday and today, actually were amicable in your conversations. There wasn’t any screaming, I mean, you did try to talk over each other a little bit, but that’s okay, but you were amicable. Nick did bring up one point that I wanna, um . . . not back him up on, but he’s legit in it. And that has to do with the zim. If you research it, that’s all you find; it’s a decommissioned or demonetized, um, currency. That’s all you’ll find out on the internet other than, you know, dinar world. Now, Iko, I’m the guy that asked you last time, about a month ago, about the zim. That said, “Outside of the dinar world, and especially from Joseph, have you heard anything about the zim? And you said, yes, you have heard it from many, many, uh, people in the financial world about what it is and I was just wondering if you could repeat that for others right . . . again.
Caller 8: Yeah, uh, yes. Um, real quick, ‘cause I don’t want to take up a lot of time. Um, the zim, what you are holding, if we hold zim, we’re holding a hybrid bearer bond, okay? And hybrid’s kind of a bad term, but it’s a form of bearer bond. It’s owned by the Chinese; it’s not owned by Zimbabwe. China bought this currency . . . China purchased the rights to all these bonds years ago, perhaps even decades ago, I don’t have an exact date, okay? But this stuff, it has value because China has put their economic might behind it. It is the instrument that they are using to accomplish their economic goals through the GCR. That’s about as simple, that’s about as good of a one-minute summary as I can give you.
Caller 7: Okay, uh, that, that brought up a question when you said possibly decades ago. Since we’re dealing with 2008 currency, how could that be so long ago ‘cause I know that came up in other peoples’ minds too.
Gerry Maguire: No, because before that, they had come up with a plan, so he’s, that’s what he’s talking about “before”.
Caller 7: Okay. [1:20:00]
[Caller 8 talks over Gerry Maguire]
Caller 8: There are other bonds out there. There are many, many different bonds out there as part of this GCR. We never even hear about it because they won’t offer to us. But the Zimbabwe bond is one of the bonds that is the backbone of the GCR.
Gerry Maguire: And it is also designed to break the back of the cabal, which it is, is doing.
Caller 8: Exactly.
Caller 7: Oh, I . . . one comment and then I’ll be off, and that is: hey, on Friday, my other 1019 buddy and myself were wondering if the lady that started talking to you after Nick was Nick’s sister until the end of the call when she actually said how much she loved you, hahaha. It was confusing where she was coming from.
Gerry Maguire: I know. Bless her heart.
Caller 7: Hahaha.
Gerry Maguire: And now that I’ve done two calls like this, nobody can say that I’m not a well-rounded and everybody gets to speak their mind because that’s what this is, so . . . . If anybody says I’m biased to one side, I don’t think so.
Caller 7: Alright, ‘til next time, guys.
Gerry Maguire: Thank you. Why are all these people from New York calling? Seldon, Seldon?
Caller 9: Hello? Can you hear me?
Gerry Maguire: Yes, sir.
Caller 9: God bless Art, Iko, and you, Gerry. ‘Cause I don’t know where else to go. I mean, I go down to Joe’s recaps, or whatever that is, the recaps are, you know. And so I relegated myself to ah . . . our detectives, and my God, you can just, after a while, I’ve got a little bit discernment going on and uh, I can just float through the ones you wanna bother with, really. I mean, the stuff about, huh, what’s going on with the ACL, and uh-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 9]
Gerry Maguire: Do you have a question for me, please?
Caller 9: Okay. I have one real question, that is, how come nobody talks about the dong much anymore?
Gerry Maguire: That is . . . I can answer that, it’s pretty much a given, we’re just waiting for it to do its due.
Caller 9: So you have confidence-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 9]
Caller 9: You have confidence in it then? As much as the dinar, and the zim, and the dinesh, and the rupee and all that stuff?
Gerry Maguire: I hold five currencies, okay, I’m good.
Caller 9: Okay. Well, listen, I hope you guys never go off the air until, oh, I’m praying that Art is right, tonight’s the night, I am ready.
Gerry Maguire: Alright, thank you sir. Uh, oh, I’m so sorry. Rodeo, drive. Come on down. Oh, come on.
Caller 10: Forgot all about me. Ha.
Gerry Maguire: Nope.
Caller 10: Alright, I would like to thank you, and Iko, and Art, and Gerry, and Richard, so much thank you because you have helped me so much with my turmoil, and you answer return my call or my text, um, or my emails, and I just have to say this one little thing and that’s gonna be it and you can go on to other things: I really wish you’d asked for me before you talked to Nick because it sounds like he was trying to vet what he was trying to say while he was on the call rather than . . . I wanted to talk about how, and what we’re going to do with all of our money post-the RV, like saving the wildlife, saving humanity, saving the Bengal tigers, the polar bears, the penguins . . . .
Gerry Maguire: Okay, do you have, do you have a question, please? A question?
Caller 10: Have a wonderful life, I know we’re gonna meet, and I just want to help the universe.
Gerry Maguire: Thank you, ma’am.
Caller 10: Mmhm, bye.
Gerry Maguire: Toronto, Rick, on the web, come on down.
Caller 11: Hi, Gerry, can you hear me?
Gerry Maguire: Yes sir.
Caller 11: My simple question is: are we going to have to listen to Nick, that idiot, again?
Gerry Maguire: No, I promised you I wouldn’t do that again.
Caller 11: Thank God. He’s, he’s like, someone said, “nails on a chalkboard,” so . . . anyways, that’s my point.
Gerry Maguire: Thank you, sir. [1:25:00]
Caller 11: Thank you, have a great day, love you guys.
Gerry Maguire: Houston, 713, come on down.
Caller 12: Hello, Gerry, how you doing?
Gerry Maguire: Rednecking, what’s your question?
Caller 12: Ha, rednecking. I’ve got a red neck too. My redneck question is this, or something: when we look back, myself five years, we have Tony calling it every week. Now here’s where I come from. My question is this: I understand that you’re doing a hell of a job, helping us, for free. That touches my heart. By the same token, I want to ask you this one question, as I asked Tony. Tony would say, “we are asked to do the call.” Who is “we”? And who is “they” that are asking you to do the call? DC would always interrupt Tony; he’d interrupt it and say, “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.” So my question is this: I feel your heart, I feel you as a human being, because you have touched me, so where we all are sitting right this moment, is that all we hear is words. Words: could be, should be, gonna be, soon, today, tomorrow. My question is one thing, is only this: Gerry Maguire – and I know that’s your false name, but as a human being, Gerry, we call in, believing in you, we believe in Iko, we believe that you guys are telling us the truth, which I know, in my heart of hearts, that is your purpose. At the same time, my question is this: have you ever asked: who ever asked you to do this call, or is giving you this information? One question: what is real? I mean, we are sitting here –
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 12]
Gerry Maguire: Okay, okay, hold on, you asked your question, let me answer because there’s a lot of people that have questions and I don’t wanna be on here for four hours. No, nobody ever asked me to do a call. The reason I ever started a call is when I was over at Winsome, Bill goes, “Hey, maybe we should do a call.” I go, “Well, I got an 800 number, I got a free conference number, I can take care of that.” And that’s how all this started up. No one ever asked . . . if anyone ever asked: it was admin Bill. As for who’s giving us information, over the time, I’ve gone up the food chain, but unless you’re there, in the room, pushing the button, watching what’s going on, the intel we get is no better than Dizzy, Bruce, BGG, Ray, it . . . nobody knows. Nobody knows. So, thank you sir.
Caller 12: I’m on the same page as what you’re trying to say to those people, “Hey, why are you saying this?” I mean, Tony called it every freaking day for five years –
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 12]
Gerry Maguire: Well, maybe he was directed. But hold on, I know what you’re trying to say, but I wanna get on to some more people, so thank you-
[Caller 12 talks over Gerry Maguire]
Caller 12: All, Gerry, all anybody is trying to ask is why are we being carrot, being carrot-stringed down the road every freaking week and month –
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 12]
Gerry Maguire: Hold on, hold on, hold on. And I’m moving on to the next caller. It’s simple as this: it’s called the golden rule. He with the gold makes the rules; the rest of us have three options. That’s what it boils down to. You can talk it to death, but money talks, money rules, and right now, we have none of it so we talk it to death and go on. So, alrighty. Rogers, Arkansas: come on down.
Caller 13: I have a simple comment.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 13]
Caller 13: I have a simple comment, and I won’t take much time. I wanna confirm what the first lady said and then there was another gentleman who said that; whenever we get someone on like Nick, who will come on and monopolize the whole call, it’s very discouraging. I call in to hear you, Art, and Iko, and when we get apart from that and the callers, it makes me think: do I really want to continue listening? [1:30:00] And most of the time your calls are very informing. But when someone like him gets on, it just ruins it.
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 13]
Gerry Maguire: And I apologized; he’ll never be on again and thank you for listening. Give me another chance.
Caller 13: [Inaudible]
Gerry Maguire: Chicago, D City, 773, come on down. Chi-town, home of Senator Obama. 773, come on down. You’re flickering. Oh. They don’t wanna talk. I don’t have time to wait. Orlando: come on down. 407.
[Caller 14 talks over Gerry Maguire]
Caller 14: How you doing this afternoon?
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 14]
Gerry Maguire: Good, good, good.
Caller 14: Um, it’s, it’s down here, by some, actually cooled off, finally. Like I said, I really got something to say. I called up to say, if they want to call it speculation, which it is, I’ve got gold and silver in my trust because I feel like gold and silver’s gonna take off like a rocket, because if you don’t have silver eagles, or gold eagles, you’re gonna be taxed on anything other than that, believe it or not because it’s not real currency, on the other. Gold and silver eagles are real currency. I just got, I just bought from a coin dealer the other day another $800 worth. And I’m telling you, this trust is real, and this whole RV’s real, because if not, why would, why would anyone be talking about it? You all . . . I was in Iraq in 2003. You know, we’re not supposed to know anything about this, but it got out in 2005-2006. That’s how long I’ve been in it, and that’s all I got to say about that. Keep up the good work, Gerry; love you brother, love Iko, love everybody on the call today.
Gerry Maguire: God bless Wingman and his patience today. Thank you, sir. Twin Cities, 651, come on down.
Caller 15: Hi, Gerry.
Gerry Maguire: Howdy.
Caller 15: Um, it’s really, really, nice to hear Art on the call, he really sounds strong, and everything and I’m really glad to have him back. Got one statement – don’t mute me like Linda – it seems to be out on the web: Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation moved 1.8 billion (with a “B”) to Qatar. Does this tell you anything about this currency and what’s gonna happen? Thank you.
Gerry Maguire: Uh, yeah, maybe, maybe they did that to protect their assets when this all goes south. Inglewood, California.
Caller 16: How you doing, Gerry? Mine’s very simple. [Inaudible] the wave of fools is riding his own eyes so that’s that. And, uh, how do I sign up for this trust?
Gerry Maguire: I will give you – got your pen handy?
Caller 16: I do.
Gerry Maguire: Send an email to – were you ever in the military? I’m gonna give it to you in military terms, just like they call out licence plates numbers. You know how they-?
Caller 16: No, sir.
Gerry Maguire: R-T-H-6-9-9-6@gmail.com.
Caller 16: At gmail.com. Thank you.
Gerry Maguire: R-T-H-6-9-9-6@gmail.com.
Caller 16: 9-9-6 . . . thank you. You have a good day.
Gerry Maguire: Even after being beat down by the neck about how this is a scam, people still asking for the trust. I don’t have time to answer you right now. Williamton, Delaware, come on down.
Caller 17: Hello Gerry. Thanks for taking the call. Two, three things. One is: you have great teaching experience. If that was me I would have reached through the phone and strangled that guy. That’s what he really deserved. Second thing is, last week we talked about taking cornbread and stuff and I made some and ate the whole thing myself. And the real question is-
Gerry Maguire: Hahaha.
Caller 17: And I really have to quit doing that, it’s really delicious. And the question is, I keep seeing on some of the other sites and gurus that there’s indication that they’re gonna raise the value of the dinar versus the dollar over the next three, four, five days, and the question is, is that going the wrong direction? In other words, we want it to be point three dinar per dollar versus fifteen hundred [1:35:00] dinar per dollar.
Gerry Maguire: Yeah, but . . . sigh. Those people putting out that, they’re trying to keep people confused, so I just read it, look at it, but in the end, what does it really mean? Nothing, because we’re not at the bank, read it, file it away for future reference.
Caller 16: Got it, thank you sir, for the call.
Gerry Maguire: Thank you. Limestone, Tennessee: come on down.
Caller 17: Hey, Gerry, how are you?
Gerry Maguire: Good. Forgive me for what I did today, I didn’t know any better, I apologize, I won’t do it again.
Caller 17: Ha, I wasn’t . . . you guys were absolute gentlemen. And you know what? We all needed to hear that. Let him, let him do his thing, let him, let him cry all he wants. That call, it exposed him, it exposed you; you won. Okay, Richard? The trust man, that man is a gentleman. He’s answered every call, every call that he – you know, we’d have to use the email, instead of call – you know, he answered every question, I received everything that I was promised, he’s an absolute gentleman. You know, Nick, if you’re still listening, if you’re, you’re calling yourself a Christian? You know, the Bible does say – you shouldn’t be hanging around TNTBS, when this guy is not a Christian, so who are you, you know, who are you keeping around yourself, I would have to ask you. So, you’ve lost all, all the [inaudible] anyone could confide in you. And I just thank you all, all that you have done, you know, we’ve all had our doubts in this, we’re all wondering, we’ve all said things, we’ve all emailed people. I don’t think anyone gets on here without having done that, because we’re all looking for truth, we’re all looking for this dream, you know? But what is faith? The Bible says, in Hebrews 11:1, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for.” The evidence of things might seem – we’re all hoping for this. That’s faith. And we’re all gonna have that faith; we believe in this, and you know what? If I die believing in this, and it never happens, you know what? You guys have made my day, you’ve made my year, and I feel better! You know? I have something I’m hoping for. I’m still working, I’m going do the things I’m still doing, I’m not gonna spend money I don’t have, and no one else is. But we’re all in this for one purpose and believe it. Anyway, thanks Gerry, thanks everyone, and God bless you.
Gerry Maguire: Thank you. Could this be the man down under? 0533?
Caller 18: You got it. Your brother from another mother.
Gerry Maguire: Absolutely. How you doing today, brother? Haha.
Caller 18: Well, I’m doing good, I tell you what, I-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Caller 18]
Gerry Maguire: Wait, wait, wait, are we still squirreling to the left?
Caller 18: Ah, you know what? I think so, but I was, err, because I missed the earlier part of the call, so I thought, my God, I better warm myself up, so I did, there, consider myself warmed again, Iko, it’s still working. And I thought I should warn New Zealand that there was a tidal wave of BS coming from the other side of the equator, but, um, hopefully, I think that will go, that won’t have to be done. But I think that uh, um, a good point has been made in the sense that, um, we’re going to hear, just as we hear in the press and everywhere else, and we’re, it’s, I laugh when all my research is done on Google ‘cause I hear every day, “I went to Dr. Google,” and they wanna hear what I tell them. But we trust whatever we read, uh, wholehearted, it’s a little naive, and all of this can be dependent at one time on what our gut instincts are and the end result of all that is: time will tell, like you said. And I think that’s, that’s probably where the rubber hits the road; the proof is in the pudding. And, when all of this is said and done, naysayers and so forth will continue to try to bite onto whatever hold on to legitimize whatever their point of view was. And I think we can feel better about all this, and in the process, know that our trust, and our, our good faith, um, was restored by you, and, and Iko, and Art. And, uh, like the other gentlemen said, on, it was, it was good to hear Art today and I’m glad to know he’s feeling better. But uh, I, I noticed because I’ve made a couple of purchases over the past week of Chinese currency – and it has fluctuated a little bit, and the bank people they always ask, “Oh, are you going to China?” And I said, “Well, not with this, but maybe someday to visit.” And I think the idea that, uh, you’re not hawking currency, I mean, I never heard you say anything about it, and I, I think that’s to your credit. And also, the idea that . . . you’ll let us know when you hear something that’s more solid and, and we can go from it, so I think that, that’s all good stuff. So anyway, I just wanted to say thanks, you have more patience than I do, Gerry, and that’s something I admire, and I don’t mind saying that a bit. And I’ll, uh, I’ll shoot you an email sometime, because when I do get the chance to come home, it sure would be nice to sit down and enjoy some barbecue.
Gerry Maguire: Shoot me an email.
Caller 18: I’ll do it.
Gerry Maguire: And put . . . all you gotta do . . . just, don’t put your area code, but just put your phone number in the subject line, that way I’ll know it’s from you. And then put, and right next to it, in the subject line, put, [inaudible] and that way-
Caller 18: I’m sorry, that last part, you broke up, what?
Gerry Maguire: Don’t put your whole phone number in there, just put the last seven digits, and just put “down under” right next to it, that way I’ll know it’s you.
Caller 18: Alright.
Gerry Maguire: Thank you, sir.
Caller 18: You bet.Iko Ward
Gerry Maguire: Well, Iko Ward, do we know what time it is?
Iko Ward: I guess it’s time to say goodbye.
Gerry Maguire: Did you have fun today?
Iko Ward: Um, yes, I did actually. I did. I, I, I, I, one way to put this is, I like feeling superior, and, aha, I felt pretty superior today on the phone. Thank God I know what’s going on. So, um, yeah, but really, folks, I know some, some people I know, got a little shaken from Friday’s call, and I just wanna-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Iko Ward]
Gerry Maguire: Yeah.
Iko Ward: I just wanna reinforce that it’s okay to have doubts. It is okay to have doubts, but um, uh, you, you gotta, you, you gotta understand, this is, this is a much larger picture than what we’re used to interpreting; the data we get on a daily basis. This is not – it’s not about our little corner of the hemisphere, or the world even. It’s about the whole planet. That’s-
[Gerry Maguire talks over Iko Ward]
Iko Ward: Go ahead.
Gerry Maguire: I wanna say this: ahem. Nick might have had positive results, and him going to the FBI, and all that stuff, I’m gonna give the devil his due, but I’m pretty sure when he brings up this, all the credibility he thought he had with the FBI, it’s gonna be swirling to the left, and hopefully that rope is strong enough to keep him from going down.
Iko Ward: And you have to remember: who is he talking to in the FBI? Who actually took his call and made his appointment? He’s getting the teller at the bank. The lowest level. He’s not even at the loan officer’s desk yet. Haha. It’s okay. You know, in an odd way, I actually don’t dislike Nick, because he genuinely believes – the other guy, TNTBS, he’s an advertisement for what happens when you chronically drink Red Bull for three years. Haha. But Nick, like I said, [1:45:00] society needs the Nicks of this world. It helps us think more clearly. It helps us with our own discernment, when people like Nick step up and say what they believe. And that’s it, that’s okay, it’s okay for those people to be out there, and that’s good, uh, it really does say a lot about where you’re coming from, allowing him to come on. I agree with Francis, what everybody said, let’s not have him on again, but . . . having him on was a good thing.
Gerry Maguire: That was just a reinforcement of exactly who he is. So give us those famous words, Iko Ward.
Iko Ward: Okay. Bye.
Gerry Maguire: Bye everybody.
Iko Ward: Or more like: bye . . . .
Gerry Maguire: And my apologies, it’ll never happen again, see you in the next call. Goodbye.
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